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Post by mscherer on Feb 21, 2011 18:49:45 GMT -5
Folks,
Contacted Mr. Wild -- sponsor of this little shindig -- and he gave me several reasons for not having announced a winner. The primary reason:
So here’s the deal: I will re-post the rules. If you are still interested in participating, follow the rules; rewrite and resubmit your scripts.
RULES: * Participants should write 1-2 scenes. They don't have to tell a complete story, but if you can pull that off, great. * Maximum of 4 characters. * Maximum of 2 locations. * Nothing too extravagant as far as stunts, make-up, locations, wardrobe.
This is a great opportunity to learn a practical screenwriting skill: write a script based on a producer's notes, ideas, etc. Consider this an OWA (Open Work Assignment). Follow the rules. And always,
Keep Writing!
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Post by marc on Feb 22, 2011 19:19:48 GMT -5
I wonder what the other reasons were? Probably the scripts weren't "good enough"? Well, we're all beginners here, right. Because some screenplays followed the rules perfectly (not my own, I admit it). But if you "sponsor" a competition and put up a "prize" to win, you probably have to take what you get and not relaunch that shindig over and over, and only respond after somebody's inquiry, anyway. It seems just like they thought, 'Oh, that was a bad idea. Maybe we can let it peter out.' If you come up with a competition either stick to it and pick a winner out of those who followed the rules, or write your own stuff in the first place. Or pay a pro, or whatever. We're giving our stuff out for free, and maybe it isn't professional quality, but we all try to give it our best shot.
I can be wrong here, really. I'm just writing how it all feels to me. If I'm wrong, I'm really sorry.
Best regards.
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Post by oz on Feb 22, 2011 23:39:16 GMT -5
I'm the first to admit that I didn't realize I broke the rules until after I posted my scenes. I didn't 'count' one transitional connecting scene but I broke the rules by having 3 scenes, plain and simple. But I kind of agree with you, Marc.
I thought the point of this was for the company to get experience producing, editing, etc. I specifically chose my scenes because I thought it would give them a challenge without breaking the bank. And although I didn't read all of the submissions, I don't understand why costumes have anything to do with the scenes not working when this was supposed to be a learning opportunity for them. So, don't use the costumes, right?
I hope they find what they're looking for. Perhaps they need to be uber specific with their wants/needs next time because I just don't recall costumes being an issue when I first read about this. Could be wrong but too busy with other things to worry about it.
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Post by dangerbowman on Feb 23, 2011 23:08:12 GMT -5
Should we repost our scenes in this thread?
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Post by oz on Feb 23, 2011 23:17:52 GMT -5
I don't think re-posting is going to do anyone any good. Sounds like they looked over what was posted and didn't find what they were looking for. Perhaps something different in your file.
And I should add that my previous post read a bit more 'pissy' than I intended. I have no bones to pick with these folks. It's their game. Their rules. I appreciate the chance to play but I did agree with Marc in that if you present it as an opportunity for them and us, pick one and run with it.
That's all I was getting at. Obviously there's a reason MY pages weren't chosen; I can't express myself properly in a stupid post, my pages must really stink! ; )
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Post by marc on Feb 23, 2011 23:37:53 GMT -5
My post wasn't intended to sound pissy, either. I was just questioning this relaunch. Really have no problem with not being chosen and all, and no problem with the initiators of this thing. Just felt weird to me.
I guess, dangerbowman, they want you to go and check and in case you failed the terms of the contest, write something else. Or, of course, if you stuck to the rules, I guess you should repost the pages here for their consideration.
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Post by dangerbowman on Feb 24, 2011 0:56:08 GMT -5
Yeah I checked my work over again and again. I'm pretty sure it's legit, but I think I'll wait to hear back from mcsherer before reposting. I guess this could be an opportunity to polish our words and maybe the work will be better for it. This could be a disaster or just a hiccup. We'll see.
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Post by mscherer on Feb 25, 2011 7:33:45 GMT -5
Folks,
I must take the blame for not being clearer when I posted: Scene 2 Shoot Redux -- Scripts Go Here!
I did not relaunch the Script2Sceen challenge at Mr. Wild’s request. Rather, I thought, based on his remarks, that all of you should get another shot. Below you will find another quote from Mr. Wild’s email to me:
So don’t blame the contest sponsor, blame me. And for those of you asking/wondering: yes! Post/re-post your scripts here. Again, I apologize for the confusion and hope you all continue to Keep Writing!
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Post by dangerbowman on Feb 26, 2011 6:29:34 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying... and continuing. I know some folks would throw in the towel. Here's my submission. We all need to find our own ways to relax. Attachments:
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Post by kevinwild on Feb 26, 2011 16:56:28 GMT -5
Hey, All. I thought I'd chime in here. First of all, thanks to everyone who submitted something, even if some didn't fit the request perfectly. I love reading people's scenes. I definitely don't want anyone to feel anything negative about this deal and I really appreciate writers, especially ones who are will to share their works publicly.
That said, you have to know that this is not a "contest" in a formal way. This was a "challenge" to see what people came up with and IF there was one we liked, we would contact the writer about producing the scene. There has never been any guarantee, timetable or even that "one would be chosen." It was just a way to hook some writers up with a production company who wants to shoot some scenes. This has not changed.
I'll also mention that we are an extremely busy production company. I have 5 employees total who are always busy shooting and editing to get the bills paid. So any scenes we do here are probably in after-hours and/or weekends. All of us have families...so yes, we have to truly LOVE the project use our little available free time to do it. Again, just wanting you to know where we're at...it might be different if we were all young 20's, single, lots of available time, etc. That's just not the case so our bar is set pretty high.
Okay, regarding the reset, I hope you do put some more scenes up here. I would LOVE to LOVE one of these. I have enjoyed reading a bunch of them and I'm actually going to go back and re-read some this weekend. But keep in mind, MANY of them were too complicated for this exercise.
There were also some that might SEEM easy, but I can tell you from a production standpoint, they are very difficult. Sorry to call one scene out, but the very latest here involves a pretty intense fight scene. That may seem simple on paper, but is actually VERY hard to shoot to look real. There are Hollywood stuntmen that specialize in fights scenes and still, half of the ones you see in movies look totally fake. With limited resources (amateur actors, non stunt-men), there is no way I'm going to risk injury shooting an intense fight scene just as an exercise! (I hope you understand, dangerbowman!)
So, if nothing else, hopefully this is a good exercise for writers to think about the production parameters as you write. There may be times you don't want to do that if writing a big Hollywood movie OR there may be times you write very much for a smaller budget movie and don't want to add fx, weather, challenging locations, period pieces, costuming, animals, stunts, gun fights, city chases, etc. in your story.
Again, I hope this is all taken as positive. Keep writing and if you think a scene might fit, post it and I WILL read it. If you want to contact me directly for feedback, I'd be happy to give you opinions privately and from a production perspective.
Thanks again and hope to see some more scenes soon!
Kevin
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Post by marc on Feb 26, 2011 18:28:38 GMT -5
Okay, cool. Sounds reasonable to me. The background and purpose of this challenge come out a lot clearer now.
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Post by marc on Feb 26, 2011 23:32:46 GMT -5
A scene that is so good that it makes you want to shoot it on a weekend? That sure is tough and I am not a good enough writer to deliver something like that. But I hate to give up and so I chip in another piece. At least I still have to do one that follows the rules. It has: two scenes, two locations, three characters, (you might need four props (two chess pieces, gun, record player) I think it is all according to the rules... Okay, David Mamet tells us if two characters in a scene talk about a third it is a crock of shit. My characters do. Oops, so I guess I'm already headed south. But I guess I just wanted to follow the rules this time. And hopefully I did Attachments:
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Post by PrimeTime on Feb 28, 2011 0:35:36 GMT -5
That's all I was getting at. Obviously there's a reason MY pages weren't chosen; I can't express myself properly in a stupid post, my pages must really stink! ; ) Got to love that honesty!
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Post by kevinwild on Feb 28, 2011 23:45:54 GMT -5
Marc, you'd be surprised. We DO love to shoot, I promise.
And by the way, people should read your entry "To Shoot" as I think it's MUCH more in the ballpark of what we're talking. I'm not judging the content itself here, but you kept it to 2 scenes, a couple characters...the gunshot actually was written to happen offscreen which is easy to do using sound effects...so nice job. This is one that has nice drama, tension and would be shootable in 2 days.
Thanks for submitting.
Kevin
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Post by marc on Mar 3, 2011 2:16:15 GMT -5
Kevin,
thank you for reading and providing feedback on my script. I'm glad you liked it and that this time I was able to center it more in the perimeter of requirements.
Also happy to hear that you busy people are so enthusiastic about your job. So whoever makes it, if anyone at all, I'm looking forward to see the final product.
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