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Post by songswithoutwords on Jan 26, 2010 5:19:49 GMT -5
I normally find that if I alter my state I lose my motivation. I end up reading other people's work or watching a movie, which is also fine but doesn't get the words on the page.
The grunt work of writing and editing works best for me when sober. On the other hand, it's usually when drunk that I read my script and strike through the stuff that sucks. I just can't seem to tell what stinks, until I let myself go a little. When sober the next morning, I usually find I was right. Then I try to figure out what to do about it.
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Post by songswithoutwords on Jan 26, 2010 6:40:57 GMT -5
Jonathan, you do sound quite coherent. Not bad. You didn't slur a single word.
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Post by darrenm on Jan 26, 2010 14:19:02 GMT -5
Although I don't intentionally get inebriated when I'm about to write, sometimes when I come home after having a few drinks I come up with my best ideas. I just jot them down on whatever paper I can find, and then look at them in the morning with sober eyes (to make sure they're actually good!)
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Post by attatt on Jan 26, 2010 14:28:18 GMT -5
Do you ever wonder if those sober eyes are prone to killing something very creative? The things we think are cool when we are high versus what is acceptable when sober can be very different. I think there is a great amount of potential for a sober artist to look at work done while inebriated and discount it even though other people might see genius. Editing yourself can be a dangerous thing.
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Post by Jeff Messerman on Jan 26, 2010 14:29:48 GMT -5
The board finally has it's first Hunter Thompson!
Be careful, there, Jonathan, we wanna' keep you around, okay? ;D
Jeff
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Post by darrenm on Jan 26, 2010 15:16:11 GMT -5
Do you ever wonder if those sober eyes are prone to killing something very creative? The things we think are cool when we are high versus what is acceptable when sober can be very different. I think there is a great amount of potential for a sober artist to look at work done while inebriated and discount it even though other people might see genius. Editing yourself can be a dangerous thing. My sober eyes are pretty accepting of far out there things, so I don't think it kills creativity. I mostly write comedy, and there's a difference between what's funny when I'm alert and what's funny when I'm tired and drunk. Although maybe a question I should be asking myself is what condition the reader is in while looking at a script. Maybe they read at 1:00am while stoned!
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Post by violet on Jan 26, 2010 16:10:18 GMT -5
i'm not a fan of mixing play and work. work stays at work, on my computer, and i only drink socially, usually when i'm out at bars and have no access to my notebook/computer anyway, so no mixing alcohol with writing for me.
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Post by aimeej on Jan 26, 2010 18:53:44 GMT -5
I have yet to write inebriated, however I find I write my best comedic pieces once I've let myself go a bit. Coming home from a night out or on a sugar rush usually provides me with the fodder.
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Post by bscenefilms on Jan 28, 2010 16:14:12 GMT -5
While writing, I am sober. But when I jam with my friends, a small amount of alcohol seems to make my playing a bit more fluid and melodic. But I think this is related to being in a slightly more relaxed state than otherwise...
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Post by Michael B on Jan 28, 2010 18:43:50 GMT -5
I'm 24 (just turned) and all through college I would write in various altered states. I would write great papers, I could punch out an A paper that should have taken a few weeks or over a month in about the period of one night. I use to think I was conjuring up all sorts of intense creative pieces mainly due to the influence of a drug.
Part of this is true, however the downside is that there is state dependent learning. What happens when you get too old and your body and mind can't keep up with those crazy reality bending overnight sessions? Well first off you have to get completely sober and what is worse is that all that creativity is locked up in a room that can only be opened up with that specific drug!
I'm currently rehabilitating my creative energies and honing them in a natural way. I'm reading a massive amount of scripts. I just finished up reading 30 scripts in 30 days (I actually exceeded that number) during a winter hiatus. I've written 2 shorts (between 30-60 pages) during that time and then I went on a 2 week break again. I'm back to my script reading binges and to be honest the creativity I was shooting out in college still isn't coming out of me.. I lost all that creativity to the wind from the ages of about 18-22 because I was doing it in a state dependent curve. I seriously cannot reach what i use to write about anymore when I was in the midst of being altered like that.
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Post by Michael B on Jan 28, 2010 18:49:00 GMT -5
****CONTINUING FROM MY LAST POST I HIT A BUTTON AND IT POSTED WITOUT BEING FINISHED*****
So I look at the last few years of my life as a lesson in life. There are no short cuts. I could take a gamble and use specific drugs that I know heighten my senses and try to sell work in that manner, hoping that something huge gets sold so that by the time im completely burned out I'll have enough money to sit on while I hammer out shit the rest of my life...Or I just look at how life is for me and realize that creative pursuits take time and practice just like anything else. You just can't waltz into an advanced mathematics class and expect to ace it without any preparation or dedication...It's just like writing..I can't expect some wonder chemical to carry me from step A to step Z. if I really want this I know that I need to stay sober and I need to process all of this information when I'm in a sober state so that I will always be able to reach it. If not (at least for me) I know if I would continue to write/read etc. in an altered state I would get 10 years down the road and look back and it'd all be gone. That's a risk I'm not willing to take.
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